06-05-2011 01:40 AM
Hello everyone. Tried to hunt down a proper forum to talk about this matter, but without luck. So there has been a lot of rumors of these two joining forces. Personally i think it would be a brilliant idea on both (financially & strategy) to do. Microsoft has joined forces with Nokia and the new "mango" OS is going to bump up the competition between Apple an MS+Nokia. Now would be a perferct time to start working together (Apple+Sony) because i am pretty sure Apple is going to lose it's lead if not reacting aggressive enough to this upcoming situation and Sony is going to drop from the competition for good.
For Sony it would be a perfect situation to polish the "image" of their products. It's true that for example "mango" is far ahead of iOS (WP7 vs iPhone) and i dont think that iOS 5 will make that much of a difference. So Apple really needs to make huge upgrades to the iOS and their way of thinking for it to stick with the competitors. For sony the deal would be a perfect situation to share patents and upgrade their products. And the one thing i have always hoped, integrate the PSN to iPhone + iTunes to Sony products. Maybe even come up with a dedicated appstore to NGP,PS3/PS4,etc...
For the pricing, it could "and should" go up a bit. That's because it would be a huge "premium brand" company after fusion/joining forces. Apple enjoys very good profit from their products and there is nothing wrong with that. I have always used Apple products a lot (iphones "all models",macs,iPads etc.) and those never let me down. The price i payed for those was high but i got what i bought and i'm happy with that. So Sony could start making some nice profit too.
The integration for Sony:s side could be example tv:s ? Apples technology combined to Sony tv:s that is No longer Apple needs to make own (my oppinion) stupid boxes to offer movies etc.. This all could be found from premium Sony tv:s. Apple has all they need, extremely good contracts with huge movie companies for example. For music Apple has the best contracts for music companies.
So all these in mind i don't see any problems for these two big and wonderful companys to join forces. To fight the might of the crappy MS and even crappier Nokia. And of course to develop a future together to offer us customers some (premium) devices/services to enjoy. They have my money !
06-05-2011 02:38 AM
Hi. Yeah i know, it's quite far fetched but still could be possible. There has seriously been a lot of rumors of these two working together (mostly in financial side). Especially now when MS has revealed details of the new "mango" OS that they use to compete with the iOS "mostly".Nokia "solely" is not going to compete with anyone, they have nothing to offer (yeah im Finnish, but still..), but after MS "saved" Nokia they have strong products coming to the market (in the future that is, for now just mango in cheap plastic ugly shells..)
I am just saying that Apple has to face tough competition and it would be easier when starting to work with for example a big company like Sony. I don't see any other possibilities in this matter.Sony just is the only company that i could imagine Apple working with (my oppinion), i can't see it in any other way. i hope we get more info sometime soon, because something is going to happen that's for sure. Apple can't just sit and watch MS taking back the crown they were finally stripped by Apple. If Sony wants to make serious money and to expand the scale of their products/services to offer, this could be their oppoturnity. This applies to Apple too, expanding the variety of their products would be only a good thing (without hurting the image of the company)
Business is business, the only thing i care is that MS loses it's monopoly state and we get a shit load of nice devices !
06-05-2011 03:18 AM
To be honest is Sony "made a console with Apple" Id become an Xbox Fanboy the next day. Yeah Im a huge sony fan right now, and only own PlayStation products and currently plan to keep it that way. However I hate Apple with a passion and would jump ship faster than greedy third parties do.
I rather not have a PS3 Slim Generation 5 within two years, yearly slight updates, and a sub par product that is advertised as the best...
If Sony and Apple team up, I hope its for advertising and nothing more. Thats the only thing Apple is good at.
06-05-2011 03:46 AM
But you cant deny that "both" actually behave a sort of same way. Both have very "unique" hardware/software designs, both try to compete on the same market and both have very expensive products on the "premium" end.
And to be honest, the Apple hating "fashion phenomenom" is something that makes me wonder. There has been nothing to hate Apple so much ? Some complain about their way of making kind of (closed) systems/software, but seriously that is only a good thing. I have a small business myself and perfectly understand the strategy. I would do the exact same way in their shoes. And yes, i own a mac. They have a saying "once you have a mac you never look back", and thats 100% true. Feels kind of funny to realise the mess that MS offers after so long time (15 years of pc building/overclocking/customer service). It's one of those things one has to try before starts to have an oppinion (without personal experience). And i know just from the way of writing, that if one has any experience of the matter (mostly). Many of the "haters" camp don't have, it's just a "phenomenom"
06-05-2011 07:51 AM
I dont see this happening. This literally puts Sony and Apple into a conflict of interest:
Iphone and PSP vie for your mobile gaming bucks.
itunes store competes with PSN for your bucks.
MAC and PS3 compete for your online bucks and time.
DLC crossover wouldnt work - again Sony has qriosity
Apple rarely colaborates (case in point adobe)
Sony will cut options to try and bring down the prices on items or make them more appealing.
Apple thinks that the components in their items are made of ground Unicorn horn...
Would it be awesome? Yes and No - Remember that IF this happened Apple would more likely require several things be removed fromt eh SOmny Lineup like the use of netflix hulu and other programs in order to replace APPLES versions...I thingk this would limit the crap out of the system
06-05-2011 10:22 AM
Yeah you are proprably right about this, but still those could be "shared interests" ? There has been a lot going on lately and especially a lot of suprising business contracts. Especially the one between Nokia and MS, even today a lot of us Finnish people still don't get it.. For me it was not a suprise tough, Nokia has had a long downhill for so many years that it was only a matter of time for this to happen. Money talks as some might say. The alliance with Nokia and "the devil" has only one outcome, the stock value of Nokia falls to almost nothing and that's when "the satan" strikes and buys Nokia ! They say it's not going to happen, but i personally don't believe anything they say. So to be short Nokia threw itself directly to the gates of hell. R.I.P Nokia
But with Sony and Apple the starting point would be totally different. Both are financially secure, have a shit load of patents and aim for the same market. To be more precise i was not talking about "total fusion" of the companies, just working together (what i like to believe), the rest was just purely fictional (what could happen). That would be the only way to overpower the "mighty devil" for a long time. I don't see this happening if working with other companies than Sony. We just have to wait and see what's coming..
06-05-2011 10:39 AM
yea maybe apple would come up with better stuff for home because sony sure can come up with some garbage and some body needs to help them.that free stuff for the welcome back plan was awful and old sony thinks we live in the 80's with those yard sale movies they gave us and the out of date looking clothes look like they come out of the goodwill box the alien casino game sounds like something i used to play on atari.
06-05-2011 01:43 PM
True. But you guys still "get" movies, here in Finland we don't Well at least we have Mubi that offers mostly farty artsy movies (my oppinion) trough PS3. There are some polished jewels in the selection, but mostly farty. That's why i use only Voddler/Film2Home and SFAnytime for movies. Sony needs to bump up the selection of "movie software" here in Finland.
05-20-2012 01:13 AM
That would be cool bro. I mean I am using an iPad 2 and the features are great! I am planning to get a ps vita or iPod touch so it would be cool if Sony join forces with apple and will beat Nokia and microsoft down!*lol*(not really) Yep it would be great the operating system of apple and the design features of Sony that would be cool.