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Ninja Theory: "DmC Inspired by James Bond Reboot" & "DMC Wasn't Cool Anymore"

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-09-22-new-dante-inspired-b
y-james-bond-reboot

 

To be honest, I thought Casino Royale was the best James Bond film. Absolutely loved it and was a nice take on the character. The similarities between this and DmC in terms of aim is quite noticeable. 

 

The only downer on this article is that Capcom think Devil May Cry 4's sales were good but not where they think it should be (despite fiscal reports saying DMC4 exceeded ALL expectations). Capcom thinks they can get 5/6 million out of this new DMC which is ludicrous.

 

Here's the actual interview Eurogamer had:

 

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2010-09-22-dmc-devil-may-cry-in
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1. Capcom went to Ninja Theory

2. Capcom are pretty much managing the project with Ninja Theory doing the leg-work.

3. Capcom went to Ninja Theory and asked them to make a Dante so far-off from the previous models.

4. This is a complete rebirth. This isn't a prequel. This is Devil May Cry reborn.

 

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3181535

 

He makes the ridiculous claim that what was cool back in 2001 isn't cool now with regards to Devil May Cry. His remarks and ludicrous as Devil May Cry 4 was the most successful title in the series and Dante is one of the most famous and recognisable characters in gaming. People love him because of his appearance and personality. He's more cool now than he was before. Such a retarded statement. 

 

Apparently there's a hint that the Dante we see won't necessarily stay that way throughout the course of the game. Does this mean we will be playing flashback scenes? Or are we going to see a gradual change in his appearance throughout. 

 

Overall, I think it's pretty likely that by the end of the game, Dante will take up a more familiar appearance. 

 

Also, the game has been in development for a year or so. No wonder the rumors pertaining to this originated several months ago.

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Casino Royale may have been a good Bond (personally I don't know about the best) but that does not mean this game will turn out like that.

 

I am still very skeptical of this game and I will remain skeptical until I hear confirmation that his appearance is only temporary.

 

Ninja Theory has no idea what the word cool even means. The games they make IMO are subpar......they are not bad games by far but they are not games that spark my interest or make me want to play them. If they made some very popular games then I could somewhat agree with his statement but to me that statement tell me that he is out of touch with the mainstream.

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IDK the way that they reference Casino Royal, as well as the way that they keep describing how the game shows us how "Dante" BECAME awesome, leads me to believe it still could be a prequel.

 

(Yes I read the part about a complete rebirth)

 

*sigh*  I was hoping that with NEW information  we might actually get some GOOD news.   Guess not. 

 

More on new Dante (and another interview) -

http://kotaku.com/5644446/shirtless-and-suspendered-the-dante-tha
t-almost-was

 

Anyway, redesign and prequel or bust for me.   *sigh* or at the very least make a true DMC4 sequel after this.

 

If it is really an alternate universe reboot, I think (Holy crap I can't believe I'm saying this) that I'm getting off this boat.  *sigh*

 

RIP DMC, you had a good run, and had potential for so much more.  

 

The part that pisses me off about the article is where they somehow think that the old fans are gonna still be interested.

 

I know I'm not, unless I see something absolutely mind blowing (or old Dante returning), I think this is the end of the DMC line for me.

 

EDIT:

 

This was in the other thread but I thought it would be worth posting here as well.   Its a video interview

http://www.ign.com/videos/2010/09/22/dmc-video-interview?objectid
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anyway they keep saying reboot, BUT also saying origin story.   This leads me to believe it may still be canon, and that Dante should look like Dante near the end of the game.

 

IDK 

I've really a lot of mixed feelings.   Part of me has been dying for a new DMC game, another part of me hates this new deisgn and direction, at the same point another part of me finds the new direction intriguing (though still hating Dante's redesign), etc.

 

And of course part of me wants this to be part of the series and end up really good, but another part of me feels this can't possibly be good, and that they should have let the series rest in peace.

 

 

 

On the plus side I am definately getting Marvel vs. Capcom 3, where I'll be able to play as Dante (and Trish)

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Regardless of all my complaining I will most likely get the game unless it gets horrible reviews.

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Same here, johntown.

S_V, the game is a total reboot in the sense that it won't take place in the canon.

Instead of hopping around a timeline like they did with DMC1-4, this is starting again from the ground up. Whether or not future sequels will incorporate story elements or a 're-telling' of the older games is unknown, but don't expect the same arc. I'm excited and skeptical at the same time but I will remain optimistic.

Again, a proper dark and more brutal origin story that explains how Dante lived his life is something I would LOVE to play. Devil May Cry 3 showed us how he simply got his Devil Trigger, that's it. It didn't tell us how he lived throughout the years.

Whether or not they use Eva's death as a starting point for Dante's revenge and rough life is unknown but I'm really interested in seeing how he turns from this hobo to a guy everyone fears and loves.

Ninja Theory are capable of doing this type of storyline with aplomb and serious realism, rather than some cliche cardboard storylines that most developers come out with.
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Same here, johntown.

S_V, the game is a total reboot in the sense that it won't take place in the canon.

Instead of hopping around a timeline like they did with DMC1-4, this is starting again from the ground up. Whether or not future sequels will incorporate story elements or a 're-telling' of the older games is unknown, but don't expect the same arc. I'm excited and skeptical at the same time but I will remain optimistic.

Again, a proper dark and more brutal origin story that explains how Dante lived his life is something I would LOVE to play. Devil May Cry 3 showed us how he simply got his Devil Trigger, that's it. It didn't tell us how he lived throughout the years.

Whether or not they use Eva's death as a starting point for Dante's revenge and rough life is unknown but I'm really interested in seeing how he turns from this hobo to a guy everyone fears and loves.

Ninja Theory are capable of doing this type of storyline with aplomb and serious realism, rather than some cliche cardboard storylines that most developers come out with.

GAH!   I'm torn about this canon/non-canon thing.   Part of me wants it to be because i don't want to be left hanging with the old series.   antoher part of me is glad it isn't because its so different.   I just don't know what to think or feel.   AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

 

 

*sigh*

 

Seriously I think I'm too attached to the series, my love of the series means I'm currently still raging pretty hard, so that its hard for me to think about this rationally.

 

Well if it is truly outside the canon, perhaps CAPCOM will in-house develop a sequel to DMC4 at some point, or is this pretty much them saying that they're dropping the old series.   Is Marvel vs. Capcom 3 really the last place that we are gonna be able to play as "Dante?"

 

*Sigh*

 

Part of me wants to be excited "YAY! New DMC"   Another part of me just died inside.  

 

 

EDIT:   Yeah, I think thats what pisses me off more than anything, the fact that its a complete reboot.   The fact that they're just dropping an unfinished story, when DMC4 was pretty much to set-up and improve the DMC storyline.  

 

Unless there are going to be two alternate DMC series running at the same time.

 

Thats what i'm most concerned about, is that this new experiment means the death of the series we actually like and cherish.

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If DmC does extremely well then I think it's safe to say that the DMC1-4 arc has ended. Capcom won't want to sacrifice any potential success to return to a previous arc they created.
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Carbonox_Ratchet wrote:
If DmC does extremely well then I think it's safe to say that the DMC1-4 arc has ended. Capcom won't want to sacrifice any potential success to return to a previous arc they created.

LOL   I now understand all the fan rage on the other forums praying for this game to fail hardcore.

 

The could be a double edge sword though, no?   I mean if this does fail it could still mean the end of the series, as CAPCOM might think that no one is interested anymore, which isn't true, its just people aren't interested in a rubish game.

 

 

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Potentially but they're aiming to open up the series to more than just the fanbase. They clearly want a slice of the God of War, Assassin's Creed, etc. pie. Western action games that are incredibly successful. Capcom will do whatever it will take to ensure that DmC gets in to as many hands as possible, with whatever amount of marketing and sales pitches it can conjure up.

If it puts in the same amount of money as it did for Resident Evil 5, you'll find it hard to walk somewhere without seeing something pertaining to the game.

DmC is arguably Capcom's most important game of the generation so far. It NEEDS the game to be popular and successful.
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Carbonox_Ratchet wrote:
Potentially but they're aiming to open up the series to more than just the fanbase. They clearly want a slice of the God of War, Assassin's Creed, etc. pie. Western action games that are incredibly successful. Capcom will do whatever it will take to ensure that DmC gets in to as many hands as possible, with whatever amount of marketing and sales pitches it can conjure up.

If it puts in the same amount of money as it did for Resident Evil 5, you'll find it hard to walk somewhere without seeing something pertaining to the game.

DmC is arguably Capcom's most important game of the generation so far. It NEEDS the game to be popular and successful.

Who CAPCOM NEEDS the game to be popular?

 

Anyway, I hate this whole gaming shift, of (particularily) Japanese developers selling out to try and rake in greater profits.   (This especially pisses me off because DMC4 was the best selling DMC game, exceeding all their expectations, and they still weren't happy!  WTH?!)

 

What makes it worse is that DMC4 was actually a GOOD game, while not on DMC3's level, it was still really good.

 

But now since they're selling out, we get "THIS!"

 

if they're going after the GoW/AC pie, then I DEFINATELY expect, the gameplay to be shallower, less responsive, and just not as good in general.

 

*sigh* well at least Bayonetta has been confirmed right?

 

Hard to believe that I actually bought my PS3 for DMC4, but the next DMC game actually has me disillusioned with the series.  

 

EDIT: 

 

I found another video.   well its more like an extended version of a video that was already posted.

 

http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-10-devil-may/704979#comment
s_top

 

from gametrailers.

 

IDK I know that REBOOT keeps getting thrown around so I understand WHY its logical to assume it disregards everything else, but at the same time in the video they keep referencing the canon alot.   IDK

 

Maybe there is something i'm just not getting.

 

Anyway, I'm still following, but I don't know what to think or how to feel.    Also they said that it took them a year just to design the look?  WTH?   And thats just stage 1 of 5?    So its gonna take them 5 years to make the game?   If it does, hopefully CAPCOM takes the exisiting DMC4 engine, enhances it and makes a real sequel.   IDK

 

Anyway I appologize to my friends and other posters here if I have been exuding negative on the DMC boards, i'm just so conflicted, and confused, I really hope I don't offend anyone in any of my posts on here.

 

Anyway cheers everyone, its really late for me now, so I'll check back again tomorrow.

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