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Re: Ninja Theory: "DmC Inspired by James Bond Reboot" & "DMC

Sep 23, 2010

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SweetPoison13 wrote:
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Poison, just get Ninja Gaiden Σ and Ninja Gaiden Σ 2 already

 


I own a copy of Ninja Gaiden Σ. I also own a copy of Ninja Gaiden Black but this is an entirely different story altogether.

 

What the heck is wrong with Capcom? Has there been a drastic alteration to the composition of their staff or something?

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Re: Ninja Theory: "DmC Inspired by James Bond Reboot" & "DMC

Sep 23, 2010

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Welp, he pretty much verified he hated the over the top CUR-AZEHness and practically everything that made Devil May Cry and Bayonetta great.

Without those elements, I don't know what to expect from the new DMC...

The picture I'm painting of Dante based on what he said is a Dante who has no humor and will more likely than not be doing some serious brooding.

I bet he'll get rid of the style meters and taunting...


*sigh* Sad, but true.

 

They completely missed THE ENTIRE POINT/APPEAL of the older DMC games

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Re: Ninja Theory: "DmC Inspired by James Bond Reboot" & "DMC

Sep 24, 2010

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What the heck is wrong with Capcom? Has there been a drastic alteration to the composition of their staff or something?


Inafune. He's been harping most of the gen about the Japanese Industry "DOOM & GLOOM" (like Wada) so this seems to be a 'logical' step in his mind.


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Re: Ninja Theory: "DmC Inspired by James Bond Reboot" & "DMC

Sep 24, 2010

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What the heck is wrong with Capcom? Has there been a drastic alteration to the composition of their staff or something?


Inafune. He's been harping most of the gen about the Japanese Industry "DOOM & GLOOM" (like Wada) so this seems to be a 'logical' step in his mind.

The thing is that its NOT "DOOM & GLOOM."    They're just being greedy **bleep**es!    All they're whining about is that they didn't make

 

"kabillions of dolarz$ liek teh Godz o Warz 3!"  

 

The statement they made about not being satisfied with DMC4's sales (the best selling DMC game), is proof enough of this.

 

so now baisically all the fans of the series have to suffer, while they try to pander to the "lower class" and casual classes of gamers, by bringing the standards of the game down in all aspects.

 

BTW i really wouldn't be at all surprised if this new game had some FPS segements and online deathmatches.   (becuase if I remember fronm their post, they want to try and get a slice of the "CoD sales pie"  WTH?

 

sit down shut up, and make a good game!   DMC4 was great, not as good as #3, but great, AND it was the best in the series, AND it sold the most, you guys made a crapload of money!!!!

 

Make anotherone LIKE THAT, but with deeper gameplay mechanics, and a good story and you'll *GASP!* make MORE MONEY!  (Who gives a crap about what sub-par games like GoW or CoD make?  (This is coming from someone who does enjoy play COD from time to time to!)  (I hate GoW though)

 

Anyway sorry about that.  LOL

Rant over! 

 

*sigh*

 

Now that the anger has abated, I'm back in the "sad" place (with regards to "DmC)

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Re: Ninja Theory: "DmC Inspired by James Bond Reboot" & "DMC

Sep 24, 2010
I've said it many times here on the boards but I'm not too keen on the 'business' aspect of the industry this gen. Aside from multiplatforming everything, there is also the budgeting/sales limiting creativity (studios saying they'd like to try this idea out but they're worried it won't sell or their publisher won't give them the green-light) and doing a genre switch up just to appeal to the 'Dude Bro' crowd as they're now called. DMC4, as pointed out, was the best selling DMC to date (or was it fastest?) meaning it was fine. Instead, Capcom wants 5-6 million sells (like I said, I don't like the business aspect this gen cause the publishers end up wanting CoD numbers upfront).

Don't think the GoW hate is needed. I enjoy the games like others (far from subpar) but what Capcom needs to understand is that it's 2 different crowds. From what other fans have said, Bayonetta is the blueprint which they should be looking at for their fans, not the Western ones.

I just don't like the $$$, $$$, $$$ pandering this gen. Yes, I know it's a 'business' but damn is it bugging the hell out of me with the decision making that's going on in turn.


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Re: Ninja Theory: "DmC Inspired by James Bond Reboot" & "DMC

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I've said it many times here on the boards but I'm not too keen on the 'business' aspect of the industry this gen. Aside from multiplatforming everything, there is also the budgeting/sales limiting creativity (studios saying they'd like to try this idea out but they're worried it won't sell or their publisher won't give them the green-light) and doing a genre switch up just to appeal to the 'Dude Bro' crowd as they're now called. DMC4, as pointed out, was the best selling DMC to date (or was it fastest?) meaning it was fine. Instead, Capcom wants 5-6 million sells (like I said, I don't like the business aspect this gen cause the publishers end up wanting CoD numbers upfront).

Don't think the GoW hate is needed. I enjoy the games like others (far from subpar) but what Capcom needs to understand is that it's 2 different crowds. From what other fans have said, Bayonetta is the blueprint which they should be looking at for their fans, not the Western ones.

I just don't like the $$$, $$$, $$$ pandering this gen. Yes, I know it's a 'business' but damn is it bugging the hell out of me with the decision making that's going on in turn.

Ah sorry if it was offensive, although I was being very polite with regard to my opinion on GoW.   Anyway, its neither here nor there though, the series just rubbed me the wrong way.

 

However, my point was that i agree with you, the money pandering this gen is disgusting.   yeah I get it they're a business and they want to make money, but "come-on!"

 

*sigh*

 

ah well.   *shurgs* what can you do?

 

apparently nothing if you're a fan, since they'll leave you high and dry, and change a successful (and good) formula.  

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Re: Ninja Theory: "DmC Inspired by James Bond Reboot" & "DMC

Sep 24, 2010

 

There are a few things that I do partially agree on with Capcom. 
1. The series has been showing signs of staleness. Devil May Cry 4 was merely a good game but not superb or as influential as Devil May Cry 3. Nor was it designed as well as Devil May Cry 3. If Devil May Cry 5 still stuck to the same formula then it just wouldn't have been great. 
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There are a few things that I do partially agree on with Capcom. 


1. The series has been showing signs of staleness. Devil May Cry 4 was merely a good game but not superb or as influential as Devil May Cry 3. Nor was it designed as well as Devil May Cry 3. If Devil May Cry 5 still stuck to the same formula then I doubt even us as fans would be welcoming it with open arms. I know I certainly wouldn't be. Story-wise yes, I still stick by the idea that continuing on would have been best, yet gameplay-wise you can tell Capcom were starting to hit a few brick walls. 

 

2. Starting afresh. I am very excited to see how this new origins story will occur. Like I've said before, Casino Royale single-handedly made me interested in James Bond again. Just like in Batman Begins, the titular character gets rebooted in a more dark and brooding manner. Fair enough we had Devil May Cry 3 but this looks set to do it in a more serious and mature manner. How did Dante really cope during his younger years? How was he feeling? What was he doing? What spurs him on to become a legendary demon hunter? The Dante in Devil May Cry 3 is no different to the Dante in Devil May Cry 4 when you strip away the aesthetics. 

 

All I want from this reboot are a couple of things to remain which makes the back-story of Devil May Cry so familiar; Eva died, Sparda is as legendary as he's been made out to be all these years and for Vergil to still be Dante's brother. No changing of the family tree basically. Eva's death and Dante thinking Vergil also died would be two particular things that would start Dante off on his bad path he's on. Maybe in the game he discovers Vergil is still alive? 

 

Aside from these things, I am still worried about the gameplay. The Unreal engine is garbage for this sort of game and it looks likely that it will be the Unreal engine being used as the trailer - despite how entertaining it is - reeked of Unreal. 

 

From the trailer alone, it looks like the environment will finally come in to play as I've wanted it to for a long time now. Definitely a welcome addition but I still want to be able to pull off a stupid amount of combos and techniques. Things like jump cancelling, etc. which just add to the depth this franchise is known for. 

 

 

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Sep 26, 2010

- I disagree CR with what you and capcom are saying....how was the series showing signs of staleness?...if 3 was great, and 4 was good, that doesnt show staleness.....that just means people didnt like 4 as much as 3..... also, the only reason the series needs to be started over is cause of how capcom has handled it.....them trying to broaden the audience caused that....going multiplat is understandable...but them trying to establish a new character instead of going with dante, not understandable....even if they wanted to use someone else, why not create a story with the already established other character named virgil?....reason being they were gonna save virgil, to try to milk the franchise even further.....

 

- like i've said on another board: to me, this game is a complete reboot of the series....reason being capcom doesnt know what to do with dmc since people werent feeling nero....and they were banking on nero to expand the franchise(instead of just using dante and virgil)....since people werent, capcom is taking the easy way out, while trying to maximize they profits....they gonna give the name dmc to a smaller dev, with a smaller budget, and if it sells cause of the name, great......if it doesnt, that's cool too....cause capcom can still come out with a "true" dmc that continues with the sries people know, and act like this one doesnt exist.....

 

\...and the only reason they keep saying it will connect, possibly be canon is just to keep people interested.....like i said in the other thread: by the time people realize that the game doesnt connect, at least not in a significant way, it's too late, cause they got your money....

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