PSAS: Battle Royale™
22 Nov 2012
DDANK818
By: DDANK818

Un-Offical Character Nerf/Buff Thread

67 replies

Post suggestions for Nerfing or Buffing characters here (until another thread supercedes this one).

- Kratos needs an AP gain NERF
- Dante need a triangle attack AP gain BUFF (stun too)

  • Dante needs buffs? Wat
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  • The only character that needs a nerf is Kratos. And he doesn't even need a huge one a slight one is fine. Just gotta tone down that AP gain
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  • Dante only has a couple combos worth using for AP gain, mostly square attacks > cancel > launch. All of his triangle attacks are avoided by Dante users because they're useless.
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  • Honestly, Raiden needs it more than Kratos. Kratos has a lot of 1 hit moves that happen to build plenty of AP, but these moves can be escaped before the Kratos has time to combo you. While Raiden can combo a lot more easily, and although it may seem like less AP gain than Kratos can potentially gain, it's more foolproof. People will start easily countering Kratos' tactics once they become more familiar with the game.
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  • there not useless they take skill .. all dante users would say drake or jak are useless
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  • sir dan needs to be reworked entirely he is horrible, completly **bleep** broken

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  • frenchie666 wrote:

    sir dan needs to be reworked entirely he is horrible, completly **bleep** broken


    Nope. He simply takes a lot of practice. 

     

    I would actually vouch that he is high tier.

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  • Sir Dan is slow but he has an amazing lvl 2 super. Use that shield! Drake is an amazing character IMO an I'm a Dante user. Jak just requires skill and knowledge of his charge moves.
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  • Havn't got the game yet as it's released here (UK) tommorrow but I'm suprised at seeing alot of Kratos stuff still I really thought they did the AP nerf before release as so many people complained about it aswell as his auto lock from anywhere grapple thing. Hopefully they will be fixed in first patch.

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  • DAN is a really good character, but he is rather hard to use. I tend to abuse the HELL out of the axe. It is demonically awesome.

     

    What kind of drags him down is his SUPERS, which are among the worst in the game. His LV1 is mediocre but  I just (Air) Forward Square the guy and walk up to him and execute. It´s not good, but it works. His LV2 is quite bad since sometimes the homing souls don´t appear and it can be dodged quite easily. I tend to get 0-2 kills with it. His LV3 is WORSE than the INSTANT KILL SUPERS. If all players run in different directions, Dan can only get 2-3 kills with it, if he is very, very lucky 4, and sometimes he only gets 1-2 kills. I should at the very least reliably kill 3 with it and have a chance to score more, but nope. It ends way to quickly since it takes far too long for opponents to die in the bubble and if they split and one gets out it resets. If there are multiple platforms, a single kill is very hard to get with skilled opponents since they drop and jump like crazy.

     

    Buff it PLEASE =)

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  • frenchie666 wrote:

    sir dan needs to be reworked entirely he is horrible, completly **bleep** broken


    Now I'm totally convinced you're Sniperwolf.

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  • What's with all the Sir Dan hate? He's a good character, just hard to use. Same with all the Sackboy hate, he's a keep away character. Some people don't seem to understand that term.
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  • Dante

    -Buff his AP gain for his triangular attacks.
    -Make his pistols somehow useful, like mini-stuns or at least a slow and some more range would be nice.

    Spike
    -Bring back his move where he can link his downward sword sweep attack with his stun club combos. This was such an unnecessary nerf imho. (can be seen in :37 of his reveal videos when he's faced with Kratos in The Dojo stage)

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  • Jak needs an ap gain buff on his forward circle, down circle,up circle, neutral triangle and up trisngle

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  • When Kratos does his foward square, he doesn't flinch when hit by attacks that stun other players, like Sackboy's shock panel and Spike's b launcher.

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  • Snake_Nox wrote:

    DAN is a really good character, but he is rather hard to use. I tend to abuse the HELL out of the axe. It is demonically awesome.

     

    What kind of drags him down is his SUPERS, which are among the worst in the game. His LV1 is mediocre but  I just (Air) Forward Square the guy and walk up to him and execute. It´s not good, but it works. His LV2 is quite bad since sometimes the homing souls don´t appear and it can be dodged quite easily. I tend to get 0-2 kills with it. His LV3 is WORSE than the INSTANT KILL SUPERS. If all players run in different directions, Dan can only get 2-3 kills with it, if he is very, very lucky 4, and sometimes he only gets 1-2 kills. I should at the very least reliably kill 3 with it and have a chance to score more, but nope. It ends way to quickly since it takes far too long for opponents to die in the bubble and if they split and one gets out it resets. If there are multiple platforms, a single kill is very hard to get with skilled opponents since they drop and jump like crazy.

     

    Buff it PLEASE =)


    This fellow Sir Dan user seconds this. His Supers (levels 1 & 3) need fixing but overall he is still beast to play as and with alot of experience can be mid to top tier potential. I'm almost Rank 500 with him now.

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  • o yea and sir dans arrow move is tottaly useless. the stun effect does not last long enough for dans slow **bleep** to jump and hit. The moment you jump the person is unfrozen. This would be a simple fix, make the stun effect longer OR have it so you can aim HORIZONTALY and NOT increase the stun effect. ANd his fire move is **bleep** useless as well people can still attack and move while being hurt by fire(THAT makes totaly sence?)

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  • Buff Ratchet's level 3. The hit box is ridiculously small and can be hard to hit people in comparison to Radec's level 3. And this may be picky but maybe buff his level 2 by making Clank move a tad bit faster, even with the time bombs I can't chase anyone down and Clank's small stature doesn't help either. This may not be necessary, only my opinion. And I agree about buffing Dante's guns. They're almost useless, unless you're chaining a combo, but even still, gives you like no AP and doesn't stun or slow.
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  • Oh and of course I'd prefer Superbot to nerf Sly's level 1 where you can knock him out of it, but I doubt that'll happen. Possibly nerf Sackboy's AP gain from the Cakinator specifically but once again, may being a bit picky.
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  • "What's with all the Sir Dan hate? He's a good character, just hard to use. Same with all the Sackboy hate, he's a keep away character. Some people don't seem to understand that term. "

    Sackboy hate is just rage. That's how you know he's a good keepaway character (Look at MVC3 Morrigan/Doom). By the way, **bleep** Sackboy. Just wanted to put that out there.


    "ANd his fire move is **bleep** useless as well people can still attack and move while being hurt by fire(THAT makes totaly sence?)"

    WHAT?! I don't even play Dan and that made my brain hurt. Have you seen the AP gain on it? If I remember correctly that's 14 AP/hit!
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  • ANd ANOTHER thing about sir dans arrow attack when youre in the air and use it, you should be shooting at the gorund not up in the air while JUMPING that ALSO makes this move useless

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  • At first I was fine with it but Ratchets level 2 clank needs a speed increase and make the time bubbles useful they do nothing, and his level 3 it just horrible the hotbox is god awful and your lucky to get 2 kills it needs more speed to. Right now his level 1 is the only super worth using.
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  • *hitbox
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  • All good suggestions, never really land Dans arrows so I avoid them. Ratchets lvl 3 is hard to land on dodging opponents, but you can send out a bomb flurry and shoot between it. Sly Coopers lvl 1 is powerful, but can be dodged easy. I hear a lot of AP complaints about Jak, I can't beat his lvl 3 super challenge on hard, there's just not enough time.
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  • Dante Needs On Of The Two. |1) Gun Buff |2) Change Boost Jump With His Angle/Demon Hook from DmC. One of these is good, which it does't matter. I don't prefer both because he would become overpowered and literally unstoppable in every situation.
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